Deve ser difícil mesmo entender nosso mundo

Solo para decirle que yo leí una otra vez y la citación está cierta por usted. Realmente dijiste que el lucro líquido era menor, y eso cambia la parte que dije yo sobre las pequeñas empresas. Voy a fijar el post para refletir su observación mejor.

Todavia, los dos puntos principales que me gustaria decir son:

1 – Mismo que el dato sobre el lucro de las empresas esté errado, no cambia la esencia de lo que me gustaria decir: Microsoft no ha creado nada de nuevo hablando de Mercado en los últimos años.

2 – El modelo de Microsoft, em mi visión (que puede estar errada, pero es mi visión) es un modelo de concentración. Aún que tengamos pequeñas empresas trabajando por ellos, en final todos tiene que pagar algun tributo a Microsoft en final. Eso no es el modelo económico que creo como más cierto.

Gracias por el comentário y lo siento por el portuñol.

Thanks for your explanations.

Just to clarify that the amount of US$ 60.000 is revenue (no profit). It’s as simple as the direct amount invoiced by the company.

In Chile, that annual revenue per employee assures a modest salary for programmers, and a company almost in breakeven point. It’s a very common scenario for IT companies in Chile and around the world. I hope in Brazil must be the same. So I recommend you to review that section of your article, due that my “Acid Test” is as basic and simple like the minimum requirements that any modest IT company and Community project must fulfill around the world.

Regards …

Marco

As a courtesy, I’ll reply in English as well. If want to switch to Spanish, I’ll reply in portuñol and so on. Please, fell free to write any way want to. Now, let’s address your comments:

1 – Ok. I’ve put a notice in the post saying this.

2 – Ok. My opinion is to respect author’s words, that’s why I’m quoting you. If want to, I can remove your words, as they are yours. I didn’t take any personal offense, I was just thinking about it the “political way”. But as I told you, I can take it off if want to.

3 – Ok, but you say revenue by employee, right? So, if I have 5 (five) employees, the revenue would be US$ 300.000,00 right? We better clarify this because it changes a lot.

4 – I could see that you did not directly related this to Microsoft. However, if you read my post, your words are a small part of it. I’m analysing Microsoft in a more general way, from the market decisions, not only based in your words. However, it’s talking with the employees that you know the company, and I could see the market strategy here. That’s the way I’m thinking about company’s future. Again, my conclusions are not necessarilly based on your words. We clearly disagree here, and I explain my reasons in some materials presented in my blog, if you have patience to read it.

5 – Ok Marco, I see it. We clearly disagree about the future, but that’s democracy right? You have some opinions and I have mine, totally different from yours.

Thanks for replying my post and feel free to do it whenever you want.

First of all, I am sorry to write in English. Unfortunately, I am a spanish spoken person, and I don’t have the skills to write in portuguese. Sorry fot that.

I just want to make a few comments, that maybe may change the scope and conclusions of your post.

1.- In my personal blog I express my personal opinions and not my employer position, so I would like to be very clear about that and I would like to restrict the scope of this conversation.

2.- Last time we met in person was in Santiago de Chile two months ago, in a local forum for discussion of public policies for chilean government, hosted by Desarrollo Digital, local government agency in charge of the definitin for IT Public Policies. My comment was that context and differences between both countries don’t allow to extrapolate conclusions or experiences between Chile and Brazil. In any moment was my attitude to disqualify your person, and I must remember it was a private conversation, not as a public comment after your presentation. If you understood that my private comment was to disqualify your person, I present my apologies, but I remember you it was a private conversation where we interchanged specific comments about our own markets and our differences.

3.- The treshold for “success” that I have defined in my blog post is US$ 60.000 “per year”, not per month (very far from the US$ 300.000 of annual revenue per employee you mention in your post). I think this is a great error of your side. This amount modifies absolutely the conclusions and context you define in your post. At least, in Chile, after taxes, operational costs, margins and every other, it means a salary of about US$ 2.000 for a programmer per month. As you may understand, this is a very basic “success” test. I ask you to reconsider the conclusions of your post after this clarification.

4.- The purpose of my “Acid Test” is just to get a local photo of the local market (I must emphzise, chilean market), to identify if we have enough local resources and experience in Chile, to define public policies to open the government applications, and if we (in Chile) will have enough resources to support the code review, modifications and specially, to fix bugs and to make functional advances. My position is that if we don’t have enough context cautions and resources, it could be very complex for us to implement and get the benefits of the peer review model. In any moment there is any reference in my post about Microsoft. It is just a metric to help the definition of public policies, including the balance must be defined between OSS/FLOSS and commercial software models.

5.- Last but not least. It is not my purpose to make conclusions and to make comments about the brazilian market and government definitions. I am very clear that you have with MS Brazil a very good process of collaboration and altogether work for your country. My personal focus (as chilean citizen and professional) is to identify the right elements and the best way to help the development of my country, to enhance the live of our citizens and to help the development of my country. In that approach, be sure that we are also working with different government agencies, industry actors and communities, but we have to be very clear also about our local reality, resources and capabilities. We may see a lot of different initiatives, but our responsability is also to find “the chilean way”.

A big hug from Chile, and pleased to continue this conversation.

Regards …

Marco Zuniga.